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[edit] Generative questions originating the article

  • Why has Cremin's definition of education had so little effect?
  • Why are his major works already out of print?
  • Cremin invoked the following (Traditions of American Education 162-3) as the sources of his theoretical positions, which he characterized as "fundamentally interactionist":
George Herbert Mead (1863-1931)
John Dewey (1859-1952)
Ruth Bendict (1887-1948)
Ralph Linton (1893-1953)
Gordon Allport (1897-1967)
Gardner Murphy (1895-1979)
Talcott Parsons (1902-1979)
Robert K. Merton (1910-2003)
Arthur F. Bentley (1870-1957)
David B. Truman (1913-2003)

What does this pedigree indicate , if anything? Is it too scatter-shot to interpret?

[edit] Key points to make

  • Is education to be an explanatory resource for the historian, or an object of study? The difference becomes fairly apparent in comparing an economic interpretation of history with a history of economics. Bailyn called for an educational interpretation of history in the title of Education in the Forming of American Society, but he really delivered suggestions for a revised history of education in the Colonial period. Cremin reverted to making education, not a means of explanation, but the object of historical inquiry. That entails hypostatizing the human experience of what educates.

[edit] Key resources to draw on

  • Cremin, Lawrence A. “The Curriculum Maker and His Critics: A Persistent American Problem.” Teachers College Record. 54.5 (1953): 234-245. Retrieved 2 July 2007 [1].
  • Cremin, Lawrence Arthur, David A. Shannon, and Mary Evelyn Townsend. A History of Teachers College, Columbia University. New York: Columbia University Press, 1954.
  • Cremin, Lawrence A. “The Revolution in American Secondary Education, 1893-1918.” Teachers College Record. 56.6 (1955): 295-308. Retrieved 2 July 2007 [2].
  • Cremin, Lawrence. “The Recent Development of the History of Education as a Field of Study in the United States.” History of Education Journal. 7.1, The Role of the History of Education in the Professional Preparation of Teachers. Part One (1955): 1-35. Retrieved 3 July 2007 [3].
  • Bailyn, Bernard. Education in the Forming of American Society: Needs and Opportunity for Study. New York: Vintage Books, n.d. (1960). See #Bailyn.
  • Cremin, Lawrence Arthur. The Transformation of the School; Progressivism in American Education, 1876-1957. 1st ed., New York: Knopf, 1961. See #Transformation.
  • ---. “Review of Education in the Forming of American Society by Bernard Bailyn.” The Mississippi Valley Historical Review. 47.4 (1961): 678-679. Retrieved 3 July 2007 >. JSTOR.
    Note how the "series of unusually provocative theses" that Cremin identifies in Bailyn's hypothetical history all have to do with the effects of American society on education, not on the effects of education on American society. (see p. 679). See #Cremin on Bailyn.
  • ---. The Genius of American Education (Horace Mann Lecture, 1965). Pittsburg: University of Pittsburg Press, 1965. See #Genius.
  • ---. The Wonderful World of Ellwood Patterson Cubberley: An Essay on the Historiography of American Education. New York: Bureau of Publications, Teachers College, Columbia University, 1965. See #Cubberley.
  • ---. American Education: The Colonial Experience, 1607-1783. 1st ed., New York: Harper & Row, 1970. See #American Educaton 1.
  • ---. Public Education. (The John Dewey Society Lecture, Number 15). New York: Basic Books, 1976. See #Public Education.
  • ---. Traditions of American Education. (Merl Curti Lectures, 1976). New York: Basic Books, 1977. See #Traditions.
  • ---. American Education: The National Experience, 1783-1876. 1st ed, New York: Harper and Row, 1980. See #American Educaton 2.
  • ---. American Education: The Metropolitan Experience, 1876-1980. 1st ed, New York: Harper & Row, 1988. See #American Educaton 3.
  • ---. Popular Education and Its Discontents. (The Inglis and Burton Lectures, 1989). 1st ed, New York: Harper & Row, 1990. See #Popular Educaton.

[edit] Scope and tone of coverage

The effort initiated with Bailyn's Education in the Forming of American Society and carried to a high level of completion through Lawrence Cremin's main works raised important questions about the relation between the history of education and educational practitioners and the public. They led an extended effort that added a great deal to the historical knowledge about the place of conscious educative effort in American history. One can broadly appreciate their accomplishments while criticizing their efforts for leaving out important possibilities.

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[edit] Genius
[edit] Cubberley
[edit] American Education 1
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[edit] Traditions
[edit] American Education 2
[edit] American Education 3
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